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Post by adamrocks on Oct 7, 2011 23:42:13 GMT -5
Warning: unpopular theory below. That is a possibility. If that were the case, I know we tend to look at it from an Adam perspective and think that it is a betrayal of Adam. However, playing devil's advocate here, if Monte is very proud of the CV recordings and wants them to have a wide audience, would he not feel that Adam was not supporting HIM, and was betraying their friendship by opposing the release of work he is so proud of? Might Monte feel that Adam was being selfish and petty? Might he think that Adam got those session gigs because of Monte's reputation, that Monte was helping Adam get experience and exposure? That now that Adam's career has gone into the stratosphere, he has disdain for that earlier collaboration? It is no longer good enough to see the light of day? It might cut especially deeply if Adam did not want to collaborate with Monte on any new songs, or even ask him to be a session musician on the album. Just sayin'. There are at least two sides to every story. Actually, I agree with you about this. Monte probably is not happy with Adam about this. If he did it, I doubt it was an accident. I wasn't going to comment on the bastard album but I just have a few thoughts on it. Cassie I think you make a good point. But it is still sleazy to put it out now when this album is so important to Adam and he's working so hard to make it perfect for us. They want to put this bastard album out why can't they wait and not screw up Adam's album release. Riding Adam's coat tails is just a 'scum bag' thing to do. Of course, just my opinion and I have no idea if Monte had any part in it. Frankly, I'm hoping Adam has more money to work with for his Tour and he can get some 'bad ass' great musicians, dancers, and back up singers to support him. It's Adam I'll be there to see and I hope the people he'll hire will feel like a 'family' to him because I know how important that is to him. If he has the same people he had for the GNT great. But if is all new people, I'm good with that too. |
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Post by rihannsu on Oct 7, 2011 23:44:26 GMT -5
Well.... but really? Monte wants the CV recordings to have a wide audience and he's pissed at Adam for blocking that? Why would Monte think wide distribution of the CV recordings would be awesome for his career? So his guitar-playing would be showcased? LOL. It's Adam's voice on the CV recordings. I adore Adam but let's be real-- who but die-hard Adam fans are gonna buy the CV recordings? I don't go on iTunes and look for albums with epic guitar playing. The one and only reason Monte would benefit from the CV recordings being released is because Adam fans would buy them. Hahaha. You don't go to iTunes looking for epic guitar playing. I don't either. But, I bet that Monte does! Not saying Monte's theoretical reaction would be logical, just that it would be human. Artists want people to see/hear their work. Not only did Monte play guitar, but he co-wrote the songs. They may be his "babies." Whether the CV recordings advance Monte's status as a guitarist or songwriter, whether he receives any monetary benefit, getting his work "out there" can be a compelling motivation. but, it is just a theory. As a matter of fact Monte discussed this very thing in a radio interview. He talked about how he gravitated to music that had awesome guitar because that is his love and he didn't necessarily care if the singing was good, but that if the guitar playing was bad it was like nails on a chalkboard. He also talked about the fact that Adam didn't really like a lot of Metal and Hard rock because what he cares about is good vocals and the singing on a lot of those rock records is like nails on a chalkboard for Adam. So while Monte would be digging on the guitar work Adam would be wincing over the vocals. I also think that Monte does have a desire for the CV stuff to be released that Adam probably doesn't share but he has said he understood why it was not good for the stuff to come out while Adam is trying to establish himself. |
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Post by Craazyforadam on Oct 7, 2011 23:45:09 GMT -5
Actually, I agree with you about this. Monte probably is not happy with Adam about this. If he did it, I doubt it was an accident. Well.... but really? Monte wants the CV recordings to have a wide audience and he's pissed at Adam for blocking that? Why would Monte think wide distribution of the CV recordings would be awesome for his career? So his guitar-playing would be showcased? LOL. It's Adam's voice on the CV recordings. I adore Adam but let's be real-- who but die-hard Adam fans are gonna buy the CV recordings? I don't go on iTunes and look for albums with epic guitar playing. The one and only reason Monte would benefit from the CV recordings being released is because Adam fans would buy them. Some Adam fans signed up for the Kickstarter collection for Monte's CD. Doubt they signed up because they love Monte's voice. Btw I did not sign up, I am just saying that it is not valid to say that guitar playing does not bring in buyers. But without Adam, Monte would have never gotten the numbers he has accumulated. I just feel that everyone gets screwed in this whole thing, the only person counting his change is Malcolm W. Adam loses, Monte loses too, imo. And he probably would prefer a different situation too. But he cannot make a living based on just Adam alone, Monte does need to find other income. I just find it strange how quickly the fan base is willing to oust somebody based on half information and assumptions. And Cassie I think that you totally have a point in what you are saying. Thanks for pointing it out that way. |
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Post by evergreen on Oct 7, 2011 23:49:35 GMT -5
I NEED A PLACE THAT WILL SELL BOOKSHELVES AT MIDNIGHT!!! Seriously, every freaking bookshelf in the house is crammed full. My parents are showing up in the morning and I've got stacks of books everywhere. I'm even out of places to hide them.  In the decorator magazines, they stack books on the floor as a decoration - maybe under a table behind the sofa, or on a bench. Then set a little accessory on top of the stack. Or do what I do with the magazines I can't part with - under the bed! Good luck! |
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Post by tigerlily on Oct 7, 2011 23:50:53 GMT -5
[wry grin] Hmmm...I have trouble believing that Monte would be so stupid as to sign something without a lawyer, especially knowing what a weasel he is. Monte has wanted to release the CV recordings for some time but Adam refused. Maybe he got tired of waiting. Warning: unpopular theory below. That is a possibility. If that were the case, I know we tend to look at it from an Adam perspective and think that it is a betrayal of Adam. However, playing devil's advocate here, if Monte is very proud of the CV recordings and wants them to have a wide audience, would he not feel that Adam was not supporting HIM, and was betraying their friendship by opposing the release of work he is so proud of? Might Monte feel that Adam was being selfish and petty? Might he think that Adam got those session gigs because of Monte's reputation, that Monte was helping Adam get experience and exposure? That now that Adam's career has gone into the stratosphere, he has disdain for that earlier collaboration? It is no longer good enough to see the light of day? It might cut especially deeply if Adam did not want to collaborate with Monte on any new songs, or even ask him to be a session musician on the album. Just sayin'. There are at least two sides to every story. No matter what Monte's reasoning was, if he went behind Adam's back and released these songs, (that Adam didn't want out there) it would be a betrayal of trust. It is Adam's voice on these recordings. They will be using the Adam Lambert name to sell these albums that do not represent Adam as an artist. Adam doesn't want his name associated with these subpar recordings. If Monte wanted these songs released, why didn't he just hire another vocalist to record them? IF Monte is involved in this album release, the probable reason he didn't get another vocalist was because he wanted to profit from Adam's voice and name- and he did it without Adam's permission. I'm sorry if his feelings were hurt because Adam didn't write rock songs with him, but Adam IS a solo artist. Hurt feelings don't give you the right to turn around and do something that is unethical. |
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Post by stardust on Oct 7, 2011 23:51:28 GMT -5
Actually, I agree with you about this. Monte probably is not happy with Adam about this. If he did it, I doubt it was an accident. Well.... but really? Monte wants the CV recordings to have a wide audience and he's pissed at Adam for blocking that? Why would Monte think wide distribution of the CV recordings would be awesome for his career? So his guitar-playing would be showcased? LOL. It's Adam's voice on the CV recordings. I adore Adam but let's be real-- who but die-hard Adam fans are gonna buy the CV recordings? I don't go on iTunes and look for albums with epic guitar playing. The one and only reason Monte would benefit from the CV recordings being released is because Adam fans would buy them. Lots of Adam fans want those songs badly. They will sell even if Adam is unhappy about it. |
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Post by mischa on Oct 7, 2011 23:52:40 GMT -5
I NEED A PLACE THAT WILL SELL BOOKSHELVES AT MIDNIGHT!!! Seriously, every freaking bookshelf in the house is crammed full. My parents are showing up in the morning and I've got stacks of books everywhere. I'm even out of places to hide them. You're pretty much stuck with Walmart at this time of night. Utility versus fashion. |
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Post by rihannsu on Oct 7, 2011 23:53:45 GMT -5
Well.... but really? Monte wants the CV recordings to have a wide audience and he's pissed at Adam for blocking that? Why would Monte think wide distribution of the CV recordings would be awesome for his career? So his guitar-playing would be showcased? LOL. It's Adam's voice on the CV recordings. I adore Adam but let's be real-- who but die-hard Adam fans are gonna buy the CV recordings? I don't go on iTunes and look for albums with epic guitar playing. The one and only reason Monte would benefit from the CV recordings being released is because Adam fans would buy them. Some Adam fans signed up for the Kickstarter collection for Monte's CD. Doubt they signed up because they love Monte's voice. Btw I did not sign up, I am just saying that it is not valid to say that guitar playing does not bring in buyers. But without Adam, Monte would have never gotten the numbers he has accumulated. I just feel that everyone gets screwed in this whole thing, the only person counting his change is Malcolm W. Adam loses, Monte loses too, imo. And he probably would prefer a different situation too. But he cannot make a living based on just Adam alone, Monte does need to find other income. I just find it strange how quickly the fan base is willing to oust somebody based on half information and assumptions. And Cassie I think that you totally have a point in what you are saying. Thanks for pointing it out that way. Well, I for one signed up for Monte's kickstarter because I quite enjoyed his first CD. Sure he doesn't have the incredibleness that is Adam's voice but he has a nice tone and I really enjoy his vocals. The Deepest Dark had some really pretty songs on it. Personally I think he's got a better voice than Daughtry, Cook or Kris Allen and better songs too. |
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Post by ksha518 on Oct 7, 2011 23:58:24 GMT -5
I NEED A PLACE THAT WILL SELL BOOKSHELVES AT MIDNIGHT!!! Seriously, every freaking bookshelf in the house is crammed full. My parents are showing up in the morning and I've got stacks of books everywhere. I'm even out of places to hide them. Hahaha, this sounds like me! Home Depot and Walmart might be open all night...? Maybe they have bookshelves?? Good luck! It really is exhausting being an Adam fan. I think I preferred last week's thread with all of the bored gifs, including Richard Gere and the gerbil, LOL. (The gerbil's face!!) I have no idea why I know that reference. And I don't even WANT to know how that got started. Eww. I haven't been able to keep up with all of the threads, but my impression is that the best news of the week was the dj's excitement over Adam's 'phenomenal' new album. A lot of people seem to be very excited about what they've heard. That has to be a very good thing. And yay for the photoshoot. I wouldn't mind another WTF cover (although not necessarily expecting it). I did think WTF when I saw the FYE cover, but about 1 minute later I was laughing and loving it. As for the rest of the drama/angst/whatever, I'm attempting to remain zen, although curious. |
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Post by LindaG23 on Oct 8, 2011 0:03:36 GMT -5
Well.... but really? Monte wants the CV recordings to have a wide audience and he's pissed at Adam for blocking that? Why would Monte think wide distribution of the CV recordings would be awesome for his career? So his guitar-playing would be showcased? LOL. It's Adam's voice on the CV recordings. I adore Adam but let's be real-- who but die-hard Adam fans are gonna buy the CV recordings? I don't go on iTunes and look for albums with epic guitar playing. The one and only reason Monte would benefit from the CV recordings being released is because Adam fans would buy them. Lots of Adam fans want those songs badly. They will sell even if Adam is unhappy about it. I agree but they could have been marketed as Citizen Vein and just as many Adam fans would have purchased the CD. This is probably on Welsford or whatever his name is. |
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