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Post by pi on Jul 4, 2012 17:15:01 GMT -5
Plz vote once an hour here. It counts on Canada's charts www.muchmore.ca/mmtop20/And now my nagging is done! Happy 4th of July, guys!!  Thanks for the reminder! I always do it when you post. Happy 4th of July to you! |
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Post by maria222pf on Jul 4, 2012 17:15:16 GMT -5
I hope he never stops with the runs. It's a beautiful thang Yes, they are amazing and bring me joy |
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Post by gelly14 on Jul 4, 2012 17:16:24 GMT -5
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Post by swarm on Jul 4, 2012 17:16:55 GMT -5
Does Brian May have any sons? Because judging from those sweet photos, he's found one in Adam for realz. On stage, ok but even in interviews, so damn pround.
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Post by crazyoldgal on Jul 4, 2012 17:16:57 GMT -5
using the internet now. since I'm having such a hard time connecting. damn vacation spots. The rentals they charge, internet should be an standard...damn
BUT
just rec'd an email from Amazon about BUY 3 albums for $25.00. FYI is on the list so I purchased the 3 for the group (can't think of the name -1n1 ??) well anyway. Just informing anyone who might want to give to the organization> I believe Tresspassing requests have been filled but I noted before I left on vacation that FYI was a HIGH PRIORITY.
So anyone feeling the July 4th spirit, check out Amazon. tks
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Post by teddybear on Jul 4, 2012 17:18:18 GMT -5
I will probably have to change my name and go into hiding after this post. If you never see another post from me on ATop you can surmise that I was banned permanently. But, here goes: I don't think that Adam's voice is particularly well suited for hard rock.I think he is effective singing with Queen because he has the range for the songs, and he eats up the stage. His showmanship is something very rare these days, but is the essence of Queen as rock opera. The typical voice I hear in hard rock is very chesty. Gruff. And pretty much flat in terms of resonance. There is the basic note, but it lacks the sub-harmonics that add richness and depth. How to explain? When you sing something in the shower, your voice bounces off the smooth surfaces and creates a fuller, richer sound, almost an echo. When you sing the same phrase outside in the open, there is nothing to bounce off, and it sounds dull. The rock singer may be able to belt things out very loudly and with power, but, usually without ring. Adam's voice has all kinds of resonance and sub-harmonics. It's like he is always singing in the shower, even without a mic. The notes bounce around his body, his chest cavity and his head cavities. He has this "ping" or ring to his voice. Even though he can sing with great power on those belted high notes, through much of his range, his voice has a light, almost lilting quality. He can darken it up some, he can add grit, but it's still a light tenor voice. When he really powers it up, he magnifies the resonance even more, and he also uses techniques to sharpen the consonants and vowels in the words to give it bite. It gives the illusion of a rock vocal, but, sound frequency wise, it's not. Adam's voice "fits" better for musical theater, arts songs, and light opera. (Come To Me, Bend to Me, and My Conviction style). There his type of voice is rare and coveted. However, Adam does not want to sing light opera. He wants to sing rock and pop. And, he does it very well, despite not having a voice made to fit that genre. He MAKES his voice fit the genre. Could he actually sing like the typical rocker dude? Possibly. If he had never had classical vocal training, probably to an extent -- if he was singing incorrectly for his body and voice physiology. It would damage his voice over time, like that type of singing without classical technique has damaged other great rock voices. But, I don't think Adam will willingly abandon his technique and training and sing in a style that is harmful on the vocal cords. Even if he wants to be a rock god. The instrument he has is too precious to risk. And, singing with that resonance and ring in your body FEELS so good, from head to.... well, you have seen evidence of where it feels REALLY good. I love the SHOW he puts on with Queen. It is such a total performance. It looks effortless, but, it is very hard work. I have fingers and toes crossed he will perform with them in the US, somewhere relatively close to me. All this is just my opinion based on what I know about the voice. YMMV. Well I agree with you on his technical voice and the potential damage (if not already done) from his style and song choices. But where are you getting he wants to "do rock" other than these Queen gigs. He has always said he does NOT want to do rock. Queen is not "hard rock" but it really doesn't matter because of the wear and tear he puts on his voice - it may as well be. He has said himself his voice is a "throwback" and not suited to rock in the traditional sense. Even if you consider Journey in that genre. Regardless, his own ballads and style of doing his uptempo songs are taxing too. I think he will tone down the flourishes and sing some of the songs straight when he's touring. Just like before. OTOH I don't know if he can get rid of the "yeah" tic as easily (shade, but OK I said it) But this Queen catalog is the WORST! Olympic sized. Freddie himself adjusted his live performances and so far Adam has NOT. None of the other front men fill ins do what he does. PR had cut his songs back to almost speaking them and let background do the melodic bridges etc. Queen Extrav has like 4 singers picking up the slack. So Adam is out there on his own historically, singing these songs as written for the studio - live. He stated they're crashing pop into rock and I think if they go past the UK gigs he will adjust the songs to protect his voice somewhat. But it's all dangerous, imo, training not withstanding because as you probably know he is not all that famous for protective technique - when he wants a certain sound or if he's tired, he's going to use whatever he wants at the moment (like the flat tongue but let's not go there). Typical male LOL. Also while Freddie had a different tone etc and was a baritone, I think Adam well knows he will just have to deliver his tenor voice and mixy transitions when necessary and accept that he's not going to get a dirty sound from it without damage. Which I think he has already stated given the Exec Producer had problems getting that out of him during FYE. He's never going to sound like people are used to hearing the songs live...a baritone with nodules who can cheat his way past his chest LOL. But I don't think it matters for Queen shows, people will get WTF about it then adjust after the opening hahaha. I'm sure he fully knows that his polished voice is trained for "not rock: and it is not some awakening he's in need of. This rock business was a misnomer from the IDOL crowd who just could not accept his desires AND/OR capabilities. Being Rock and Roll does not mean your modal voice will cooperate and push you into the "rock" part of that term. hahaha. I didn't watch Moscow that carefully but I thought I saw him doing a bit shorter notes than he did in Kiev. But I only watched a little. I know Adam loves the flourishes as his trademark but I think he could easily get away with much less and even win some people over who think he overperforms, show boats, is insecure, whatever...if he just sang most of the songs straight. In his way, of course and just omit several wails hahaha. I've no idea what you just said :4OMG: |
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Post by swarm on Jul 4, 2012 17:19:22 GMT -5
Also while Freddie had a different tone etc and was a baritone, I think Adam well knows he will just have to deliver his tenor voice and mixy transitions when necessary and accept that he's not going to get a dirty sound from it without damage. Freddie was a tenor! Some people will never be happy either way though. I've read people saying he oversings on Trespassing! Gimme a break! Trespassing album and promo is the most restrained I've heard Adam in a looong time, the FYE had a LOT of OTT vocal antics and while I loved most of them there was some oversinging and unnecessary high note wankery here and there as even Adam himself admits. I think there's a sweet spot between both eras that Adam will find as he better adjusts to the TP material live. I'm looking forward to it :D :D No he was a baritone. Higher perhaps than some but a baritone. Strictly speaking in basic categories it's still not a natural tenor. Well it's ridiculous to say he's over singing Trespassing., right. I"m talking about adding ad libs and unexpected wails in Queen. I agree with you he'll find the pocket on both material. |
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Post by maria222pf on Jul 4, 2012 17:19:44 GMT -5
Freddie is Freddie, Adam is Adam, Plant is Plant et cetera. They all are awesome and there is no need to compare them IMHO. I personally love vocalists like George Michael, Robbie Williams, Dave Grohl or Chris Cornell and I don't want them to be like Adam and vice versa. For me it is like trying compare "Mona Lisa" to "The Night Watch" - IMHO utter nonsense. I agree (and I absolutely ADORED Plant as a teen)- I think it's especially impossible to compare a living singer to a dead one who has now assumed mythological powers in the eyes of his followers, impossible and pointless... Freddy might have been a legend in his lifetime but Adam is bringing me joy in my lifetime and that's enough for me, there is room for both of them, but I am not into worshipping the past, so am trying to enjoy the now... |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2012 17:19:48 GMT -5
As a Queen fan and a hard rock fan (but not a vocal expert as you), I agree with you, cassie. Exactly my thoughts but I dared to share it not to confront. In fact I'm bored with the actual setlist, I have heard most of the songs live several times. When the tour was announced I created a setlist based on Adam's vocal range and didn't take acoount the overplayed hits. Most of the songs were not hard rock songs and I would have been interested how Adam could handle them. Some example: OMG!!!!!!! YES! YES! YES!!!! (I think I just had a musical orgasm!!!!) |
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Post by nonchallance on Jul 4, 2012 17:22:23 GMT -5
Freddie is Freddie, Adam is Adam, Plant is Plant et cetera. They all are awesome and there is no need to compare them IMHO. I personally love vocalists like George Michael, Robbie Williams, Dave Grohl or Chris Cornell and I don't want them to be like Adam and vice versa. For me it is like trying compare "Mona Lisa" to "The Night Watch" - IMHO utter nonsense. AMEN SISTAH. I'm completely against any comparisons. I only want to see if someone is doing justice to the songs and there's no one else in the world right now who could do justice to the Queen songs other than Adam. BTW I looooove the same singers as you do. I must admit that I'm a little tired with all that comparisons and analyzing every note Adam sings. I understand that for some of us this is passion and love for technical skills and all that stuff (and believe me I know what it is like - don't ask me about computer graphic stuff - I can talk about this for hours), but sometimes I just want to be happy that Adam sing what he want to sing and doing it the way he want to do it. |
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