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Post by geezlouise on Mar 14, 2011 0:34:13 GMT -5
I think you're totally weird, and I love you for it. And there's something weird about all of us. I think weirdness is or should be a badge of honor as long as the weird is tempered with self awareness. Adam has a gift. He is not afraid to march to his own drummer, and yet he is easily able to blend and charm even the conservative skittish, just because he is pure at heart and utterly sincere. And the fact that his talent and good looks are like honey to bees makes his attraction all the more potent. But there will always, I believe, be a part of Adam that is uncomfortable with fitting in too deeply... Which keeps him on the edge, and is what makes him unpredictable and exciting. He likes to annoy people, he likes to challenge perceptions, but he does it all with a wink and a smile. I'm rambling. Sorry. Weird is good. ITA..... no apology required. Every member of my family, including myself of course, fully embraces our weirdness. Not a conformer among us. We wear it proudly and openly. That being said, we are also very self aware. Weird is good.... and very fun! ETA: Thank you Readon. I always enjoy reading your posts.
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Post by maria222pf on Mar 14, 2011 0:40:08 GMT -5
JDurbinAI10 James Durbin Waiting on the WORLD to change! "When the power of live overcomes the love of power the world will be at peace"- Hendrix twitpic.com/49998n How is this related to Adam ? Also, isn't that a mis-quote ? Shouldn't it be 'the power of love' ????
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Post by seoulmate on Mar 14, 2011 0:52:49 GMT -5
JDurbinAI10 James Durbin Waiting on the WORLD to change! "When the power of live overcomes the love of power the world will be at peace"- Hendrix twitpic.com/49998n How is this related to Adam ? Also, isn't that a mis-quote ? Shouldn't it be 'the power of love' ???? Discussed earlier in the thread! Yes, it should be "love" instead of "live." And it was something Adam used when he was on AI or something!
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Post by ksha518 on Mar 14, 2011 0:54:12 GMT -5
ksha518, all of us experience Adam from our on context. Adam, as an artist creates an illusion that allows us to venture into fantasy worlds that RL will never provide. As long as we can differntiate the fantasy from reality, I don't see a problem with how any person chooses to interpret Adam. None of us have any real idea about the Adam/Sauli relationship. We may have hopes and expectations, but only Adam and Sauli know what is really going on. However, Adam has been very adamant that his relationship with Tommy is fan service. They are friends, not lovers. Whether Sauli is a distraction to Adam #2 will remain to be seen. That being said, if Adam finds true fulfillment in life with a life partner and never becomes a big artist/entertainer, then I will accept that Adam is happy in his life. Life is all about choices. In my own experience, heart choices are very fulfilling and last a lifetime. I have not regretted my heart vs. career choices. It's up to Adam. I agree with most of what you say here. I don't think any of us can know the reality of Adam's private life, nor should we. I make no assumptions about anything regarding Adam's life. I take my own responses, as well as everyone else's, with a grain of salt. I will say that it's interesting to me that Adam provokes such a strong emotional response in so many people. Maybe his over the top charisma and ability to connect are part of the reason for that, but I think it's an interesting subject to consider. So many people are so invested in his happiness. What is that all about? I also agree for the most part with what you say about his career. In expressing my feelings about his album and the way he is approaching it, I admit to awareness that my feelings are at times selfish and entitled. Honestly, I mostly want to just go along for the ride, and be open to whatever he gives us. That is my overriding feeling about being a fan of Adam. That doesn't mean that I don't also have *wants* as a fan. But for the most part, I'm not invested in those wants -- I feel very ~flexible in my acceptance of Adam. So, while I say I would prefer an album which has a 'dark' side, I'm sure I will adjust if the album is completely sunshiney, lol. Although I don't expect that, really. It's interesting what you say about heart choices vs. career choices, because I've thought about that a little, too, and yes, it IS up to Adam, obviously. And I wouldn't begrudge him a choice of heart over career, although I don't think those things have to be mutually exclusive. I can feel happy for him and still feel disappointment as a fan if, say, he runs off with Sauli and never makes the second album. I'M NOT SAYING I THINK THAT WILL HAPPEN!! Very unlikely, lol. But I AM prepared for anything. You just never know! On the subject of choices, I've also been thinking about what seems to me to be another choice that Adam must be facing continually in his current career, and that is the choice of how mainstream he needs to be to have the success he wants. If he truly wants to be a global superstar, I would think there would be some compromises that must be made. Or maybe not? I wonder about that -- and I admit to thinking in generalities. Does he have to make a choice between being a superstar vs. an 'independent' artist, or is his talent such that those distinctions don't apply, that he can be a huge star without compromises? I wonder about his working with people like Ryan Tedder and Max Martin, whose songs are so recognizable. I imagine that Adam doesn't consider those collaborations to be compromises, that he is excited about working with people like that, and that he will create with them something that is uniquely his. But...? Just kind of tossing this around in my mind.
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Post by maria222pf on Mar 14, 2011 1:06:40 GMT -5
How is this related to Adam ? Also, isn't that a mis-quote ? Shouldn't it be 'the power of love' ???? Discussed earlier in the thread! Yes, it should be "love" instead of "live." And it was something Adam used when he was on AI or something! Thanks
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Post by rabbitrabbit on Mar 14, 2011 1:13:20 GMT -5
midwivespal, and aloha, and geezlouise, and everybody here really.... I love our weirdness! (and our self-awareness!)
On the heart versus career choice, as ksha518 points out, they don't need to be mutually exclusive, and often your heart choice can be a great support to your career--that has been my experience, even though I'd thought as a young woman that getting married would be the death of an career in the arts. In fact, ironically, it's what made it much more possible.
For some people, the groundedness and security a partner gives them helps them feel freer to take bolder emotional risks, to explore their dark as well as light memories, and bring them out in their work, for example. A partner can be also someone you can bounce your craziest ideas off, or ask for help in the moment when you are stuck, and trust to get completely honest feedback from.
Happiness leads to expansion, risk-taking, confidence, enthusiasm.... unhappiness can lead to depression, statis, apathy.
Anyway we have no idea about the nature of Adam's relationships, and I'm just offering the above to counteract assumptions that heart vs. career is a contest with only one winner.
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Post by ksha518 on Mar 14, 2011 1:21:36 GMT -5
I don't care what he does with the next album--I have full faith in him that it will be simply wonderful--but I do have one specific wish: please let it be, if only in parts, weird. I love that Adam is happy to be weird sometimes, just as I love that he's happy to be mainstream and accessible and easy to like. I love the combination. And I truly madly hope that he feels free to keep it weird, on occasion, going forward. I missed this before -- really love this statement. Maybe 'weird' is better than either 'dark' or 'sunshiney', lol. And I do think the weird/accessible combination is part of what makes him so fascinating. I, too, like his use of BOTH of those things in his visual presentation of himself. So...AI Adam = fabulous, and DTRH tophat Adam = equally fabulous. I love that he's unpredictable; hope that never changes.
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Post by Q3 on Mar 14, 2011 1:27:55 GMT -5
Just popped in to read the thread. I am in Arizona soaking up the sun and the news will be done by Tinafea and NoAngel for the next 3 days (TY TY TY!!).
Kind of fun to just read a thread for fun. Night all.
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Post by gelly14 on Mar 14, 2011 1:35:30 GMT -5
Coming from a city whose unofficial motto is "keep Portland weird" I totally agree with this. Weird is interesting, weird pushes boundaries, weird is contradictary and complex and unpredictable. Art (at least non-derivative art) is weird. Adam (regardless of how he choses to dress and do his hair and sing at any particular time) is a weird and wonderful person and will no doubt continue to be. I also reject any assumptions that a cleaner cut style reflects "maturity". People clothe and adorn themselves to feel beautiful and strong. I feel beautiful and strong in black boots that lace up to my knees, gothic jackets, and artsy vintage skirts. Put me in a girlie sundress and summer sandals and I feel awkward and exposed. Although I may well be the only person on #teambigeargaugesarecool, and look forward to sleeve tattoo action, I'm equally happy and delighted by the Adam we just saw on AI, because I recognize it as a choice he made, not that was made for him. And just 'cause I'm feeling my oats today, I'll leave this quote from Adam's Hollywood Reporter interview: www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/adam-lambert-promises-campy-more-166821I think you're totally weird, and I love you for it. And there's something weird about all of us. I think weirdness is or should be a badge of honor as long as the weird is tempered with self awareness. Adam has a gift. He is not afraid to march to his own drummer, and yet he is easily able to blend and charm even the conservative skittish, just because he is pure at heart and utterly sincere. And the fact that his talent and good looks are like honey to bees makes his attraction all the more potent. But there will always, I believe, be a part of Adam that is uncomfortable with fitting in too deeply... Which keeps him on the edge, and is what makes him unpredictable and exciting. He likes to annoy people, he likes to challenge perceptions, but he does it all with a wink and a smile. I'm rambling. Sorry. Weird is good. Good morning and no,no rambling aloha, love your post, weird is good!!
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Post by aloha on Mar 14, 2011 1:53:41 GMT -5
My take on the ‘fans’…. new or renewed, or whatever… that have stepped on the rollercoaster because of Adam’s understated look and performance on Idol. ARE YOU SURE YOU ARE TALL ENOUGH TO RIDE THIS RIDE? There is a chance you are going to get hurt, or fall off, or hurt someone else. You are going to shit your pants and want off. You are going to puke up your vanilla cone and your hot dog. It will be messy. This isn’t a kiddie ride. Adam isn’t a Club Sandwich. He is the newest creation on the menu. He is the fusion dish that a Club Sandwich eater would never try. He is a Korean BBQ Pulled Pork Taco with Wasabi Aioli. And next week he may be something very different. He is spicy… and you’re going to need a big ass bib and a huge glass of cold water to get it all down. He is an ever changing menu and the biggest and fasted ride you’ve ever been on. All in one man. Are you ready? Not only are your words profound, but they made me hungry as hell.
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