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Post by cassie on May 11, 2016 22:12:23 GMT -5
Cassie, could you talk to me about allison porter's voice? i can't stand her shrieking, which is all she seems to do (and i hate how that has become a popular form of singing nowadays). she doesn't seem to have any vocal skill whatever and just relies on her ability to belt out the notes (ooh, her poor throat must hurt). i wonder why adam doesn't teach her a little technique, or at least point her to a good teacher. of course, i'm such a meddler that that's what i would do, even if it would get me in trouble, which it probably would. Allisan is actually a legitimate, highly trained singer. She is capable of producing pleasant, even beautiful, clear notes that are warm and touching. However, if The Voice is any indication, that is not the sound she wants to produce. She wants to be a powerful, diva belter. Which, as you said, is a popular style for females in pop these days. I think it lacks all subtlety and emotion. I find her upper register particularly shriek-y. If she would flip into her head voice..... something she is totally capable of doing... it would sound much much better. But it would not be the pop diva sound. It would be too "legitimate"? But her belt is very shrill, metallic and brittle, IMO. As to Adam giving her pointers, of course he could, but she already knows how to make a more pleasing tone. She is singing this way by choice. Alisan was in the Broadway revival of A Chorus Line in 2007. Here is the song she was featured in. I have cued it to her verse of the song. youtu.be/Q-IUJU0Tu9I?t=1m39s |
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Post by wilis on May 12, 2016 17:21:59 GMT -5
Cassie, could you talk to me about allison porter's voice? i can't stand her shrieking, which is all she seems to do (and i hate how that has become a popular form of singing nowadays). she doesn't seem to have any vocal skill whatever and just relies on her ability to belt out the notes (ooh, her poor throat must hurt). i wonder why adam doesn't teach her a little technique, or at least point her to a good teacher. of course, i'm such a meddler that that's what i would do, even if it would get me in trouble, which it probably would. Allisan is actually a legitimate, highly trained singer. She is capable of producing pleasant, even beautiful, clear notes that are warm and touching. However, if The Voice is any indication, that is not the sound she wants to produce. She wants to be a powerful, diva belter. Which, as you said, is a popular style for females in pop these days. I think it lacks all subtlety and emotion. I find her upper register particularly shriek-y. If she would flip into her head voice..... something she is totally capable of doing... it would sound much much better. But it would not be the pop diva sound. It would be too "legitimate"? But her belt is very shrill, metallic and brittle, IMO. As to Adam giving her pointers, of course he could, but she already knows how to make a more pleasing tone. She is singing this way by choice. Alisan was in the Broadway revival of A Chorus Line in 2007. Here is the song she was featured in. I have cued it to her verse of the song. youtu.be/Q-IUJU0Tu9I?t=1m39sIt never, ever occurred to me that she would WANT to sound that way, but now that you have described the situation it makes total sense. thank you sooooo much for answering my question. and i am so relieved that you're having problems with her sound, too. i was so worried that i was wrong and that you'd say she sounded great on The Voice!! |
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Post by saraswati on May 17, 2016 17:27:22 GMT -5
Just wanted to share this new album I discovered- a wonderful combination of African and rap music:
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Post by Holst on Jun 11, 2016 17:45:31 GMT -5
Hi Cassie, and anyone else who peruses this thread. I'm busy doing work on my computer and have my PBS tv station going in the background. It's fundraiser week where they show all these special programs. On comes Josh Grobans concert called "Stages" (a concert of musical theater songs). I haven't been a Groban fan but haven't really heard him since he matured. All of the sudden I'm surprised by his excellent singing. Very impressive technically for the style he does and very expressive. I know, not everyone's cup of tea on Atop, but I think it deserves a look. He does a beautiful version of "Bring Him Home" from Le Mis (30:17). In my opinion, so much better than Andrea Bocelli, who always sounds a bit unstable to me, especially his vibrato.
ETA: Shut Up! I'm still watching PBS and now an Andrea Bocelli concert is just starting. Guess I'll turn the channel. :|
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Post by cassie on Jun 11, 2016 20:59:44 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing. I was invited to a concert of Josh's in Atlanta next month. I wasn't sure I would really enjoy it, but thought I would give it a try. Watching this, I am glad I accepted the invite!
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Post by toramenor on Jun 30, 2016 23:18:31 GMT -5
Hello, everyone, I've been meaning to post about NOT Adam musicians for a while. Even though I still think Adam's voice is unmatched, I recently got back into listening some old(er) albums & songs which I enjoyed years ago, but then stopped listening to for a while. In the male voices category, there have been some interesting voices that have managed to tell stories that continue to move me every time. One among them is an Italian singer, probably not very well-known among most of you, but he's huge in Italy and in some other European countries. Eros Ramazzoti. Is he the best singer ever? No, I'm sure there are plenty of flaws there, although I do like his voice. But he might be one of the best storytellers. His album Tutte Storie (All the stories) is absolutely fabulous. I heard it ages ago and fell in love with the music even though I could barely understand a few words of what he was singing about. Today I'm not much better at Italian than I was back then, but I listened to the whole album again and I decided that I think it's genius: I like every song on it, and some I simply adore. The same as before, but there is one difference: back then, I had no way of getting my hands on the translations of those songs, but now, I found them online, and oh - my - goddess - was I blown away once again! For the first time, I could actually understand completely - linguistically - what the songs are about, and while I have always sort of understood them on some other - non-linguistic - level: on a musical or an emotional level - understanding the lyrics did give me an even greater appreciation for the songwriter. I truly believe Eros Ramazzoti would have been a global superstar if most people who buy music understood Italian the way most people understand English. Which sort of makes me think about the past. Way back when, before there was such thing as music charts, when people thought opera singers were pop stars, Italian was the language of music. If you wanted to write a "hit" song, you were supposed to write it in Italian. I bet any English songwriters in those times had a really tough time getting their songs and music to be even considered as serious if they wanted to write words in English... Speaking of opera singers and pop stars, there is such a thing today as pop opera style. Il Divo comes to mind immediately as a group that some of you might recognise. I don't know how familiar you are with another little group, or I should say duo - RyanDan. Ryan and Dan Kowarsky - twins, who teamed up to sing together and released a couple of albums. Their style of singing is not pop, but some of their songs are, I guess, so they fit into that category of pop opera. They have amazing voices, of course. Maybe they're not to everybody's liking, but there's no denying the training behind them: they are classically trained singers. I, who am not an expert, can hear it immediately, so I am sure our resident experts would agree, 'cause I am sure they can hear it much better and with greater knowledge and understanding. I think what I most find fascinating is, of course, the whole twin aspect thing. Not so much because it's a rarity, but because they have this incredible ability to blend their voices so that you cannot tell them apart. I don't know if blending is any kind of musical term (probably not), but that's what I experience when I listen to some of their songs: that they are intentionally using their voices to create this blending effect. I can't post youtube videos, but I'm sure you can find some of their songs online to see what I mean. My favourite songs of theirs are: The Face, High, Tears of an Angel, Dentro Me (that one is sung in Italian). They also have their own version of The Prayer, which I find very interesting from the standpoint of how amazing their voices are. Wikipedia says they have a 3-octave range, I don't know if that's true, but it certainly is impressive. The Prayer is not an easy song, and I believe it is traditionally sung by a woman and a man - here two men sing it, but it's really well-done and they hit all the right notes, in my opinion. Well, that's it from me  Now back to enjoying Adam some more. I think I just wanted to express how fortunate I feel that I can love so many different things and find joy in music. |
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Post by red panda on Jul 18, 2016 15:59:38 GMT -5
Amazing. Gives me chills every time, but I am an Ella fan for life and quite possibly prejudiced. Very, very prejudiced.
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Post by cassie on Jul 18, 2016 17:16:41 GMT -5
Ella is the Empress of Jazz. No one else even comes close. A fantastic interpreter of the genre, in every way.
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Post by red panda on Jul 29, 2016 0:59:45 GMT -5
And speaking of songs that I would like to hear Adam sing, this one is in the top ten.
With his incredible ability to make me feel a song, I know he could do this one with such depth, such emotion, such longing.
I think almost everybody has been there, someone leaving you you're pretty sure you will die without, pride goes out the window and all that is left is that raw terrifying place that is so awful, so lonely, that you are begging, begging this person not to leave you. Honestly, just thinking about it brings tears to my eyes, such a powerful emotion, such a powerful song.
Lorraine Ellis
Couldn't find a good version by Janis Joplin on Youtube.
Ruby Turner
Melissa Etheridge
Bette Midler
Alisan Porter
And Bobby Hatfield of the Righteous Brothers
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Post by red panda on Jul 2, 2017 1:42:19 GMT -5
Just wanted to say a goodby to a folk singer who died recently. I have followed and loved her for years. I don' think she was well known except in the folk singing community. Her name is Rosalie Sorrels. She was a writer and a story teller as well as a singer. The video below is a sample of her story telling, followed by a song she wrote and sings. This is from the New York Times: linkI will miss her. |
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Now back to enjoying Adam some more. 